History is Happening Now

October 16, 2008

It’s Been Proven. Not To Work.

Filed under: Uncategorized — Lee @ 12:02 am

We’re through the third of three debates, and by all accounts Obama has won all of them–a remarkable feat.  I wanted to comment on the debate’s final exchange regarding school vouchers.  McCain made the claim that “I’ve got to tell you that vouchers, where they are requested and where they are agreed to, are a good and workable system. And it’s been proven.”  Courtesy of Ezra Klein, I direct you to this Greg Anrig Washington Monthly article on the failure of school vouchers:

[I]n recent months, almost unnoticed by the mainstream media, the school voucher movement has abruptly stalled. Some stalwart advocates of vouchers have either repudiated the idea entirely or considerably tempered their enthusiasm for it. Exhibit A is “School Choice Isn’t Enough,” an article in the winter 2008 City Journal (the quarterly published by the conservative Manhattan Institute) written by the former voucher proponent Sol Stern. Acknowledging that voucher programs for poor children had “hit a wall,” Stern concluded: “Education reformers ought to resist unreflective support for elegant-sounding theories, derived from the study of economic activity, that don’t produce verifiable results in the classroom.” His conversion has triggered an intense debate in conservative circles. The center-right education scholar Chester E. Finn Jr., president of the Thomas B. Fordham Foundation and a longtime critic of public school bureaucracies and teachers unions, told the New York Sun that he was sympathetic to Stern’s argument. In his newly published memoirs, Finn also writes of his increasing skepticism that “the market’s invisible hand” produces improved performance on its own. Howard Fuller, an African American who was the superintendent of schools in Milwaukee when the voucher program was launched there, and who received substantial support from the Bradley Foundation and other conservative institutions over the years, has conceded, “It hasn’t worked like we thought it would in theory.”

Anrig goes on to write that:

Utimately, the voucher experiments confirmed what their critics had asserted all along. The heart of the problem with our urban schools is neither the education bureaucracies nor teachers unions, as Chubb, Moe, and many other voucher advocates have contended, flawed though those institutions may be. Instead, as the sociologist James S. Coleman found in the 1960s, a student’s family’s income and the collective social and economic background of his classmates are by far the most important influences on his academic future. Not only do lower-income students tend to score relatively poorly, children of any background who attend high-poverty schools are far more likely to produce worse test results than they would in schools with primarily middle-class students. America’s urban school systems remain almost universally dysfunctional, primarily because the country as a whole is about as segregated by race and income as at any time since the civil rights revolution.

There’s a lot more to say about vouchers, obviously, but the fundamental point remains:  the invisible hand of the market is not the answer to all our problems.  In the case of services like education and military spending and utilities, the public sector may yield the most efficient results and the market may be an utter failure.  Even the staunchest advocates of vouchers are beginning to agree.

Government is sometimes the answer.

2 Comments »

  1. Actually this guy defeats himself with all his billowing, with one simple fact.That he uses only 1 reference, and no statistics or reporting. One guys opinion from 1960.
    Every case studied with results OVER 2 years where vouchers are in place, DO WORK. I cant say “every” but almost every case shows it works, and dramatically well.
    Conversely every case ( which Obamatards and liberals point to) that are under 2 years show little or no change.
    So, like most economic laws, when allowed to play out, do work. Most liberals would like to pinhole their argument sand show that socialism or communism do work but are proven wrong again and again.
     
     
     
     

    Comment by jabberwolf — November 5, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

  2. Your use of terms like “Obamatards” and association of “liberals” with “socialism and communism” — as if they were obviously the same thing — is strong evidence of your seriousness of mind, jabberwolf.  Welcome, to History is Happening Now.

    You write “Every case studied with results OVER 2 years where vouchers are in place, DO WORK.”  OK, fair enough.  If there is evidence that vouchers work, I’m open to learning about them.

    Can you name your sources?  I’d love to learn more about these pro-voucher arguments and assess their quality in a serious way — without using terms I might be tempted to use, like “voucher-tards” or maybe “Friedman-dolts.”

    Comment by Lee — November 5, 2008 @ 4:48 pm

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