I’ve never considered myself very cool. But lately, I’ve begun to think of myself as at least kind of a little bit coolish. After all, I support Obama, and he’s cool, right? He’s the coolest candidate since John F. Kennedy, or so they say.
But then, recently, I was listening to an interview on The Rachel Maddow Show on Air America Radio (technically, a podcast of the show) and I realized I’ve been deluding myself: Supporting Obama isn’t cool. Maybe it was cool once, but it’s getting less and less cool all the time.
What was it about this interview that yanked the cool carpet out from under me? It was the awesome, overwhelming coolness of a man who is so cool that most people know him by only one name. Move over, Cher. Here is Markos! (being interviewed by the somewhat less cool David Bender, who interviewed Markos about the upcoming Senate vote on a bill that would provide immunity to telecom companies that illegally wiretapped U.S. citizens for the U.S. government):
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BENDER: … that vote is coming up now. It’s been delayed in the Senate ’til after the 4th of July recess. And two Senators, Russ Feingold and Chris Dodd, have talked about not only gumming it up but possibly amending this FISA bill to take out the telecom immunity. You have been writing recently at Daily Kos about the issue, both specifically, and writ large as it affects the presidential campaign, and there’s a lot of concern now that Barack Obama has walked back from his commitment to oppose a FISA bill that gives telecom immunity. He has said he will vote for it if that’s the compromise. We don’t know where he will stand on a filibuster. You have gone so far – and you posted this, and I caught it yesterday – that you’re holding back on making your personal contribution to the Obama campaign, based on the fact that (on) this and other issues, he has, he has walked back a bit. You know, we’re hearing all the rhetoric. “He’s moving to the center.” “He’s using the left.” “This is his sister Soulja (sp?) moment.” Whatever happened to her, by the way? Um, how do you feel about what’s happening here, and again, is the perfect the enemy of the good, and the good being the essential fact that Barack Obama needs to be sworn in next January.
MARKOS: Barack Obama is going to be sworn in next January. I, there’s, I have no doubt about that. Absolutely.
BENDER: I’ve just knocked wood here.
MARKOS: (Barring) a calamitous collapse of epic proportions, which is always within the realm of possibility, not very probable. The issue here isn’t that we don’t support Barack Obama anymore, or that I don’t support him anymore. Of course I support him. I look forward to Barack Obama. I want him to win and win big.
BENDER: And you make that clear. You make that clear in your post.
MARKOS: Right, right. So this is not an opposition. It’s not, “I hate Barack Obama,” or “Barack Obama no longer meets my, my, my, somehow, my standards of what a good Democrat should be.” None of that is the case. What is the case, is that Barack Obama, by going back on his word on FISA, and, sort of, using us as a foil to show how moderate he is – I don’t even know what he’s doing – basically what he’s saying is, “I don’t need, Markos, I don’t need your financial and ardent support anymore.” That’s what he’s saying. And he probably doesn’t. He has huge movement behind him. He’s got millions of people that are donating, working for him, whatnot. People like me who are really, really concerned about the FISA situation, we’re a minority, an admitted one. I mean, I’m not going to claim we’re this massive movement. Right? Just a fairly small number of people who are really obsessed with protecting the Constitution.
BENDER: But, a large number, Markos, a large number of ardent people – and, when you say that he may feel he doesn’t need the money anymore, well just last month he only barely outraised John McCain, which is a first, and so maybe there is some argument that if the checkbooks are closing, that could have a real impact on the campaign he can run over the summer.
MARKOS: Right. No, absolutely. And that’s sort of the calculation that they need to make when they’re deciding how to move on certain legislation. They have to understand that even among his supporters, it’s not 100 percent, all in, no matter what Obama does. There are repercussions to the choices he makes. By deciding, “you know what, FISA’s not important to me,” and I guess, I think most people are focused on tangible issues. I mean FISA’s sort of abstract, right? The Constitution. People are more focused on, “Am I going to lose my job,” or “When are we going to get out of Iraq,” or “How can I get health care? You know, I’m one illness away from catastrophic financial ruin.” Those are the things that people are really focused on right now, and FISA’s sort of an abstract issue. So, um. But, there are people like me that are really, really, you know, that really believe in the Constitution, and it should be defended. So, he, we’re sending the message, and it’s not a malicious message, but any time he makes a calculation of that sort, he’s going to lose somebody.
BENDER: It’s a friendly push. It’s a friendly reminder.
MARKOS: Absolutely. And if he decides, if it turns out that he does need that money after all, he does need my ardent support and that of people like me, then he can quickly decide, “You know what, I am going to help filibuster this FISA bill. I’m going to use my leadership as a leader of the Democratic Party to come up with a FISA compromise that is a true compromise, not a capitulation to George Bush, but a true compromise that protects the Constitution.”
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Now, let’s review some of the truly cool things Markos said in the interview above:
First: “Barack Obama is going to be sworn in next January. I, there’s, I have no doubt about that. Absolutely.”
It’s cool that he has absolutely no doubt about something that will be the subject of intense speculation throughout the country for the next four months. If I were cool, I’d be a confident as he is. But I have to admit I’m plagued by doubts; and that’s why I feel motivated to give money to Obama’s campaign, to volunteer for him, and to try to convince my friends to support him. I’m not entirely certain that he’ll win, and that’s why I think my involvement might make a small difference. But if I were cool, like Markos, I wouldn’t feel the need to get involved because I’d already know the outcome months in advance. Confidence about stuff: that’s cool. Chicks dig it.
Second: “People like me who are really, really concerned about the FISA situation, we’re a minority, an admitted one. I mean, I’m not going to claim we’re this massive movement. Right? Just a fairly small number of people who are really obsessed with protecting the Constitution.”
He’s so right, and so cool. Uncool people like me tend to believe the Constitution is pretty popular with a sizeable majority of the American public. I mean, if you walk down the street and you ask random people whether they support the U.S. Constitution, you’re liable to get a fairly positive response. So uncool people like me figure if most Americans aren’t concerned about the FISA bill, it’s because they don’t really understand why it’s such a threat to the Constitution, perhaps because people like Markos haven’t succeeded in delivering their message. But my knee-jerk belief in the popularity of the U.S. Constitution is just so uncool compared to Markos’ belief that only a small minority – for whom he apparently speaks — really care about the Constitution. Markos is so cool he didn’t even think it necessary to explain in the interview why the FISA bill threatens the Constitution. (I had to get that info from my friend Lee, who isn’t very cool at all.) Instead, Markos implied that I’m not passionate about the FISA bill because I’m not really “obsessed” with protecting the Constitution. Obsession is cool. Talking in ways that make other people feel stupid is cool. Chicks dig it.
Third: “I think most people are focused on tangible issues. I mean FISA’s sort of abstract, right? The Constitution. People are more focused on, ‘Am I going to lose my job,’ or ‘When are we going to get out of Iraq,’ or ‘How can I get health care? You know, I’m one illness away from catastrophic financial ruin.’ Those are the things that people are really focused on right now, and FISA’s sort of an abstract issue.”
It’s true: cool people like Markos aren’t like the rest of us. They don’t tend to worry as much about health care, jobs, or war. (That’s partly because cool people are independently wealthy and would never serve in the military. ugh!) But the real reason why cool people don’t worry as much about the “tangible” issues, is because cool people are smarter than the rest of us. Cool people live in a world of abstractions. You know, abstractions like the Constitution, which is far too abstract for ordinary health-care-wanting, job-wanting, peace-wanting Americans to understand. That’s why we need cool people, I suppose. Chicks dig it.
Fourth: “So, he, we’re sending the message, and it’s not a malicious message, but any time he makes a calculation of that sort, he’s going to lose somebody.”
Markos understands that it isn’t cool to be malicious. If Markos were “malicious” toward Obama, that would be very uncool. So, instead, Markos is offering up a friendly threat, a friendly message: “Vote the way I want, friend, or I may not give you any money for your campaign. And you may even “lose” some people, which presumably means they won’t vote for you.” The uncool might have a hard time reconciling Markos’ claim that he wants Obama to win big with his implication that Obama may need Markos’ support to win and Markos’ threat that he may not end up delivering that support. But that’s only because the uncool, the simple-minded, can’t see the deeper meaning, the subtle truth. The uncool might also have a hard time understanding why Markos thinks his actions will make any difference, given his claim that he believes Obama is absolutely going to win. Like Walt Whitman, Markos contradicts himself. Chicks dig it.
So here it is, folks. If you want to be cool and punish Obama for voting yes on this FISA bill, you should withhold your campaign donation, which Obama doesn’t need because he’s going to win anyway. Or, if you are uncool – if you care about providing health care for people who are suffering, providing jobs for people who want to work, providing releif for our heroic soldiers who are dying for no reason in Iraq, and you’re not in possession of a crystal ball – then I suggest you open your checkbook. Obama needs your help, especially now that the cool are jumping ship.
I agree that we have no crystal ball with which to predict who will win this November, and that we should work to support Obama over McCain, especially if he slips in the polls. Markos is not privy to any special insight or information unavailable to the rest of us.
However… I think it’s reasonable for him to say that someone who is dying for want of health care, or fearful he might be shot dead by an Iraqi insurgent, would consider the FISA debate trivial to his immediate concerns. And rightly so. The former two are matters of short-term life and death; the latter is a middle-to-long term concern about the erosion of institutions that protect us from dictatorship. We each have to choose which horizon of action is most relevant to us. Markos, perhaps due to his relative safety and security, has chosen longer-term horizons.
Then, there is the question of political pressure. Why did Obama change his FISA view? Presumably, he did so because there are powerful pressure groups on the Right whom he fears could derail his campaign. He is fearful charges of being unpatriotic might stick. It seems reasonable to me that someone who felt strongly about the FISA compromise–who saw its success as an erosion of our essential liberties–would make that position known. Vocally. That seems to me the very point of American democracy: To put pressure on candidates and leaders. To participate politically in the name of our genuine passions and causes. (The fact that campaigning defensively makes Obama look weaker rather than stronger is a secondary and less important strategic point.)
Would we be so lucky to live in a future where Republican candidates “triangulated” with respect to OUR values, sending their base into apoplectic rages when they quickly expanded the rolls of universal health-care, redistributed wealth in ways that lifted Americans out of poverty, further dismantled American military bases abroad, and strengthened the international rule of law in ways that promoted universal global democracy without horrific military intervention. If only.
The American Right is strong, even in this off year, because it spent decades building infrastructure and institutions. The Left needs to do the same, if it wants to win in a long-term way. For now, that definitely means supporting Obama. But also: registering discontent, and letting future politicians know what lines we will not cross. For Markos, FISA seems to be that line, which seems fair enough for me, even if those who share our values may disagree at strategic and tactical levels.
And chicks do dig guys who express their honest opinions without fear, it seems to me.
Comment by Lee — July 8, 2008 @ 4:41 am
In response to your response, I basically agree with everything you said. I certainly agree that chicks dig guys who express their honest opinions without fear.
The point of the “chicks dig it” line in my post was to imply that Markos is taking his position on making a contribution to Obama’s campaign because he’s trying to look cool to impress a girl. It’s a cheap shot, but I figure it’s ok because it’s absurd on its face. In a hundred years, historians will probably scrutinize Markos’ considerable accomplishments as a pioneer in left-wing activism — for that reason alone, I’m sure there are thousands of women who would jump at the chance to chat him up over dinner. I would jump at that chance.
And I absolutely agree that patriotic Americans should feel compelled to express their opinions, even if those opinions might embarrass the candidate they happen to be supporting in a general election. So kudos to Markos and others for speaking out on this FISA issue. Our nation’s founders clearly didn’t want political operatives to misuse their positions in government to eavesdrop on the phone conversations of law-abiding citizens without any judicial oversight. I may not agree with those founders about whether women and blacks should be allowed to vote, but I sure do agree with them about limiting he power of government to spy on me.
I’m just not interested in hearing left-wing activists explain why they’re withholding resources from the Obama campaign. I want Obama to win, and that’s why I’ve given him money, and that’s why I’ll continue to give him money. I want him to win a big majority that will serve as a mandate for him and for a Democratic Congress to do what’s best for the country.
And I don’t like the idea that the FISA issue is an “abstract” issue that can be understood only by a small minority of Americans.
Regarding your basis point about building left-wing institutions to put pressure on liberal politicians to keep them from drifting to the right — my only concern is, if these institutions attack Obama’s integrity to get their way, they may, perhaps unwittingly, contribute to a right-wing narrative that Obama is a flip-flopper who just wants to get elected and only takes left-wing positions to win primaries. I really sense that Obama is sincere in his desire to improve the lives of Americans, and I think that idea — that Obama really cares — is his greatest asset.
Comment by iabagley — July 8, 2008 @ 8:19 pm